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Post by Caller on Jun 22, 2010 17:46:20 GMT -5
What bothers me about a raid is all it takes is *ONE* person to fuck up and all 10 of you lose. Last night was case in point. Maybe that doesn't happen in 25 man, but I can foresee it being easily worse.
I hated alliances in FFXI too. The biggest Salvage group we had was 11 people, and that was only once because it sucked that much to babysit all those people. We stuck to 8 after that. I like having a small, cohesive group where you can convey strategies and messages much more easily and efficiently.
Also more power to you Norfy but that really proved to me I have no desire to be a raid healer.
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Post by Yvondith on Jun 22, 2010 18:49:20 GMT -5
Didn't help that I had no idea what I was doing. All I knew was LOL STAB THE THING! Been reading PvP guides since the servers are still down. Wow. Rogues are a self absorbed, egotistical lot. Everyone thinks that their ideas are better than someone else, and aren't afraid to say as much. Unfortunately this is adding fuel to the "I'll never be a good PvP Rogue" fire. Oh well. Next class on the list of things to level is Paladin. Death Knight may reach level 80 first for farming, but we'll see.
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Post by Norfy the Walrus on Jun 22, 2010 20:00:37 GMT -5
The "one person to fuck it up for everyone" is a pain in PuGs. In guilds it isn't all that bad cause its 10 (or 25) people learning together for the benefeit of the team. If you've ever seen a raid video or HNM video where people cheer into vent (or whatever voice chat) at the end of a tough kill. Their excitment isn't exagerated. It is quite amazing being part of a big group of people and working together and communicating with one and other to get a big kill.
Healing 10 man isn't that bad I find. You usually have two other healers helping out anyways. 25 man you have 4 or 5 more helping out but having to look at 25 health bars is quite overwhelming. Which is why I don't PuG ICC25 all that much. A) its more stressfull on healers and B) As you say, one person can fuck it up for 25 people. XD
EDIT>> Patch 335 is a new 10 and 25 man raid. Ruby Sanctum. I think its only about 3 or 4 bosses. Its to keep people busy till Cata but to also not undermine ICC as the final dungeon.
EDIT 2>> Omg, server que? XD
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Post by Office Ninja on Jun 24, 2010 4:58:37 GMT -5
I have been having the urge to play again. I think however this time I am going to resist. I like the idea of the real Id and being able to talk to my alliance friends and stuff, but things like the sparkle ponies and the progression of raids and gearscores and required add ons to do anything have truly ruined any desire I have to play the game.
I may give it a go one last time come expansion time but we will see.
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Post by Norfy the Walrus on Jun 24, 2010 10:39:45 GMT -5
If you do come back you could stick to doing Heroics and gearing into Tier 9. Even if you're not raiding with it or anything its something to do perhaps. So we were ontop fo the Frozen Throne last night.... i11.photobucket.com/albums/a162/norfenstein/wow/WoW2010-06-2320-48-48-77.jpgHe doesn't aggro or anything. You activate the fight by talking to Fordring who is at the bottom of the throne. He managed to kill us within 2 minutes when we tried but we are going at it again tonight. I also have my SIndragosa video ready. Found a 6 and ahalf minute song off the Mortal Kombat soundtrack that works so I edited the video to fit the song. I'll post it after work.
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Post by Norfy the Walrus on Jun 25, 2010 0:16:08 GMT -5
I know the song gets repetetive but people were bitchy that night. Better to have that song than listening to bickering.
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Post by Yvondith on Jun 25, 2010 2:02:25 GMT -5
I don't plan on doing any serious raiding because of all that nonsense. I'm just not up for making this game a job instead of fun. I'm gonna be quite happy with my PvP gear, and maybe gear purchased with Frost Seals later.
Now with the Real ID, I can level Horde characters if I want to. Yay!
Still leveling Alliance lowbies too. Just putzing around in general lately, I'm burned out from all the PvP on Tai I guess.
I'm slowly working towards the Flame Warden title too. I sneaked into Orgrimmar last night and stole their flame without being detected. Undercity will be a breeze, Silvermoon should be OK for me, but I gotta scope out Thunder Bluff. If Caller can do it, so can I.
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Post by Norfy the Walrus on Jun 25, 2010 10:32:11 GMT -5
"All that nonsense" doesn't happen too often. Everyone is usually joking around. Musta been a full moon that night er something. XD
One thing they need to change with the real ID thing is kinda what Square did with their PoL (the two are pretty much the same). Everytime someone logs out of a character it shouldn't show them as offline. You should not be offline when you login to the servers, even if its not in game. Like last night Steph was, I'm assuming, toon hopping. Its not your fault for doing that. We all toon hop. But the game kept doing little pop up message saying "Stephanie is online, Stephanie is offline, now online, now offline, online, offline, on, off, on, off.
I know you can turn those little popoffs off in the interface menu. What I'm saying is that once you are past the login screen THAT should be considered online. Even if its its just on the character select screen.
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Post by Yvondith on Jun 25, 2010 17:07:14 GMT -5
Oh I'll agree. Needs to be fixed! It's annoying as hell. What I mean about nonsense is the elitist attitude some people have with raids. Especially the gear score crowd. I just wanna have fun.
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Post by Caller on Jun 25, 2010 20:25:36 GMT -5
It's still new, there are bound to be updates (fully expecting privacy options), but boy I agree, and am guilty of it. There's a reason I use altoholic after all. ...and uh, "If Caller can do it?" Back-handed compliment in there somewhere. ...squish.
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Post by Yvondith on Jun 25, 2010 20:28:06 GMT -5
Meant that you're a warlock, and therefore not able to hide like a rogue. It's fun to watch your "prey" and them not know you're there. I hid on the roof of a building until the coast was clear, dropped down, clicked, and vanished.
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Post by Yvondith on Jun 28, 2010 0:05:25 GMT -5
Sorry about disappearing like that. I ran over to the boss, and then realize I had lost my connection. I wasn't able to get it back until sometime after midnight. Fuck you, router!
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Post by Norfy the Walrus on Jun 30, 2010 1:07:48 GMT -5
We tried out the new Ruby Sanctum raid tonight. Its very small, much like Obsidian Sanctum, but this one is quite a bit tougher. We managed to do 3 out of 4 bosses but the final one beat us pretty bad. Its fun though. Even the trash mobs are nasty which I love. We havn't had hard trash since Ulduar.
Its a pretty zone. Red trees and stuff
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Post by Office Ninja on Jun 30, 2010 1:40:12 GMT -5
Ulduar still has to be my favorite raid on Wrath. (Never entered ICC so no clue there).
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Post by Yvondith on Jun 30, 2010 11:42:27 GMT -5
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