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Post by Norfy the Walrus on Oct 9, 2010 15:04:01 GMT -5
Game Spot gave it a 4 out of 10. Game Trailers gave it a 4.2. Yeah I'm probably going to wait on this one too. I'm sure it will get good eventually but they should have waited to release it if it is as sloppy as people are saying it is.
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Post by Caller on Oct 22, 2010 22:48:22 GMT -5
Yeah this game is getting *slammed* with reviews, and well, I agree with most of them. Though I have to disagree with their saying the voice acting is terrible because...it's not. Now, it's not great either. But god we've all heard "bad," and this ain't it. Here's a link to the review Norfy mentioned, it has a Yue clone in it. So that alone merits a watch. www.gametrailers.com/video/review-final-fantasy/705892It's mostly true and to the point. The good news is that apparently the SE Dev Team is 100% aware of the world's distaste of this game and the second patch (PS3 launch, yes the old "wait 3-5 months for a patch" credo still stands) is supposed to completely redesign the UI and quest mechanics. ...we'll see about that.
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Post by dejibo on Nov 14, 2010 8:26:02 GMT -5
I heard several folks talking, and I CANT prove it, but they are saying that SE is having such trouble attracting folks to the game that they are considering making it FREE to play for a few months, just to bring folks in. Once the alpha and Beta tests were over, many who were testers (including me) simply left, and didnt sign up again.
IMHO the game is NOT ready to play. Its laggy, its confusing and has precious few instructions on what to do, where to go, or how to do it once you get there. No AH, and while you can change jobs by changing gear they dont tell you that, you had to figure it all out on your own. To be fair FFXI was a mess when it first opened, but at least there were manuals to lead you. There were quests that were disigned to teach you about your town. Like Shantotto wanted a bone chip and a bomb ash and she told you which mobs dropped them, and where to find the mobs. As the game progressed it did get better, and many good things were added as I am sure FFXIV will do, but for now, its just too much of a mess.
Would you play for Free? If you have FFXI AND FFXIV its only $7 more per month for the both. I know free will probably draw in the masses, but they cant keep them if the game isnt playable.
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Post by Norfy the Walrus on Nov 14, 2010 11:29:02 GMT -5
With all that I've been hearing about this game I'd say thats proof enough right there. But who knows. If it does become F2P I'll will give it a shot for sure. But even then who knows if I'll stick with it. I probably wouldn't but I'd give it a shot.
So would you guys say that this is a downgrade from FFXI? Its too bad SE didn't take what worked from FFXI and use that and what didn't work and toss it. Or change it. I have not played this but from what I can see of this game its like they didn't learn a thing from XI.
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Post by Yvondith on Nov 14, 2010 12:24:37 GMT -5
I might try it if it was made F2P, but I doubt I'd stick with it. I'm pretty attached to WoW right now.
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Post by Caller on Nov 14, 2010 17:50:57 GMT -5
It already is free to play, basically. You get a 30 day free trial, but they've extended mine twice. I haven't paid a cent other than to buy the game itself. It's really, really bad though. Nothing's done and the interface is deplorable. Wait till PS3 for which it was clearly designed.
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Post by dejibo on Nov 15, 2010 8:15:17 GMT -5
There are some good things. the graphics are wonderful. it was awesome to have a new game after so many years of a dry spell. I am sure there are other good things, but I cant think of them.
The bad issues are, there are next to zero instructions on what to do, where to go, whom to speak to or even how to equip or unequip your character. Where to buy gear, where to buy/sell items or even how to use them in battle or about town. its all learn as you go, and stumble on it by accident. When you first get off the boat, there are key folks you need to talk to, but you must wander, and wander and wander before you find the right one. Once you find the right one, the others will start talking more sense, but only once the right guy unlocks it. Its horribly laggy, and easy to control your character. you bump into walls, cant get your visual field correct, and once you do its easily ruined. There are hills and valleys that you simply cant jump down or up from. The mobs outside are heavily camped and its difficult to learn how to target and then engage the mob. it take some skill to figure it out. by the time you figure out how to engage this mob, someone has stolen it. If you move forward a bit to get away from the mob you get one shotted by aggro stuff. so, its frustrating.
I will wait for the PS3 even if its free today. its simply not worth the aggrevation or frustration simply to gain a level.
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Post by Caller on Nov 16, 2010 0:05:54 GMT -5
I do have to say that, for us, who have spent years in FFXI, FFXIV will be easy to pick up and play because it is essentially FFXI-2. It really is. You know this interface, you know this world. It's how I was able to just get into the swing of things relatively easy.
But bad is still bad. I can only hope their first version update will fix a lot of this.
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Post by Caller on Dec 2, 2010 17:08:00 GMT -5
Looks like they have once again extended free play time on FF14, because I'm still able to play...wonder what's gong on there.
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Post by Office Ninja on Dec 10, 2010 20:19:36 GMT -5
Its been extended until they feel the game is "Up to par". Also they fired everyone and got a new staff.
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Post by Norfy the Walrus on Dec 10, 2010 21:44:25 GMT -5
Are you serious?
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Post by Office Ninja on Dec 10, 2010 22:01:12 GMT -5
Yup. Its hilarious. Also, PS3 delayed until the PC version is "up to par" so who knows how long that will be.
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Post by Caller on Dec 11, 2010 1:44:58 GMT -5
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Post by Yvondith on Dec 11, 2010 9:05:50 GMT -5
Wow, Them fessing up and saying we're sorry. I am truly amazed.
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Post by Caller on Dec 12, 2010 3:24:54 GMT -5
FF14 had a lot of good ideas marred by horrific execution. The leveling system is brilliant to be honest, but the interface is terrible. Crafting uses mini games and interactive activities while synthing, which is kinda entertaining, but the game doesn't remember your recipes, that's up to you. An open air market place makes sense given the fact you have your own personal NPCs to sell your stuff, but there's no way to search or see buying history.
I hope they keep the Job system in place because it works exceptionally well. Being able to switch Jobs on the fly is reminiscent of FFX-2 and FFXIII, only you can't do it in combat (which is fine in the MMO scheme of things). but they need to streamline the process. Currently, when your Job levels up, you get points you can allocate to stats and elemental affinity, and you can also use points to buy new abilities. But it's not clear exactly how this works, nor does it show how many points you need to unlock the abilities. Plus the UI to allocate points and abilities and set them on your action bars is deplorable. Lots of "are you sure??" and having to click multiple times to do one simple thing. And it seems your offhand weapon gets its own action bar, though it's not immediately clear how to set that up.
It needs simplified and streamlined, the graphics need recoded, they need to add MUCH more content, and they need to fix the horrible literal game breaking glitches. The game wasn't ready.
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