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Post by Office Ninja on Jun 7, 2011 14:06:55 GMT -5
Norfy, I did not indicate all you wanted was to get in this womans pants. I know you are a much better person than that. I simply think partens should spend the time with their kids and cook them dinner, ask them about their day, stuff like that. Its important.
I did not realize it was JUST on Mondays... that is kind of odd I admit. And I totally understand not spending time with the kid yet, I did not realize you had not done that yet. It makes sense though since you are still getting to know this woman.
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Post by Norfy the Walrus on Jun 7, 2011 19:23:47 GMT -5
First off, I would like to apologize to Kik and Dej for calling you guys retarded. I was mad but that's no reason to go and say that. I like both of you and it was uncalled for. I'm sorry.
Yes, the arrangement we had was meet up after work on Mondays for about 45 minutes to an hour. We'd meet at 4:30 pm. That is plenty of time to spend together and for her to get home and be with her daughter. The rest of the week the daughter would have her all to herself. And then every second, maybe third, weekend we go out on our date. You can see why I'd be frustrated? Its not much time as it is, and the Monday thing was my idea cause of that. So now that I've lost the Mondays its like when the hell can I see her? Two or three times a month? This is the issue I am having. I would never expect her to drop her daughter so she can come out with me. I would lose all respect for her if she did that. I mean hell, my mom was in University for 8 years and I often times had to make my own dinner. Whether it be mac n' cheese or something simple like a sandwich. In the case of myself and my mother I was home alone more than I should have been. She didn't neglect me by any means, and she was pursuing an education. But I was alone more than a kid should be. I don't think what I am asking of Tracey would have her neglect her girl at all.
I'll call her tonight. Not to break up but just to talk. And then think about what I want to do.
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Post by dejibo on Jun 8, 2011 5:40:40 GMT -5
No apology needed, you were clearly frustrated and felt like you were not being heard. By us or by her. I agree that if you are this unhappy then something has to give. Since you are the one making all the concessions here, this isnt a two way street, and it sounds like you were a nice distraction for her, but now she is realizing that she has a child, a life, and responsibilities to take care of and may be having second thoughts about treating herself to some grown up time. Im sorry, but when i first heard how limited she is with her time to you, I wondered if she was still married. Then you told me no. I think talking to her in a calm manner, during a calm time to say you are unhappy, and want to work to fix things will help put her in a position of having to do something about it. Whether that is make more time for you, or less time for you. I agree, you are not being unreasonable in asking for that 45 mins. Dinner can be held up by one hour. She doesnt have to ask this kid to cook, she can just ask her to wait.
Either way I do hope it works out for you. You deserve better treatment than that, and if it doesnt work out, please dont dispair. I know at least 12 couples that met on Match.com and are married for longer than 5 years each now. One couple just celebrated their 7th anniversary and told the story of how when they met, both had given up because they are so socially shy and thought for sure that no mate would match their shy personality. Both hate vegetables (sprinkle sugar on them!) both like quiet things, and are antisocial with things like church, bars, concerts, events. They just want to live a simple home life not full of parties and people. PERFECT! Either way, you wont find a mate by pulling the curtain and quitting. You will have to take some risk in order to be able to at least meet a few girls.
Hang in there. Love sucks! even when its good, love can suck. I hope you are able to show this woman that things cant and shouldnt work as they are now. its not enough for any of you. Good luck. ((hugs))
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Post by Norfy the Walrus on Jun 16, 2011 19:44:29 GMT -5
Oh Canada! Full of fucking morons. I am so ashamed of this. This last month and a half or so was the hockey playoffs. The Vancouver Canucks were the only Canadian team to go anywhere with the rest of the teams being from the US. So a lot of Canadian cities were cheering for Vancouver cause of that. Keep the championship in the hockey homeland. Vancouver made it all the way to the Stanley Cup Final against the Boston Bruins and lost just last night. So what do the citizens of Vancouver do? They riot. They tip cars over, light them on fire, break in to stores, destroy and steal stuff. And for what? A fucking hockey game? Yeeeep. Way to destroy our national image, you jackasses. Not all of the people in Vancouver were taking part in it. Some were ashamed like I am. Got a video of some shit that happened. ca.news.yahoo.com/video/canews-22424922/looting-violence-in-vancouver-25621529.htmlI love hockey but fuck these people! This kind of thing is going on right now in the middle east with the riots and stuff. But those people are fighting for their freedom and their rights. These goddamn, Canadian freaks are doing it cause they lost the Stanley Cup to the obviously superior team. For shame, guys. For shame.
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Post by Yvondith on Jun 17, 2011 0:40:17 GMT -5
Saw this one today:
BOOM! Slams into that porta john like I've never seen. >.>
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Post by dejibo on Jun 17, 2011 7:22:06 GMT -5
Wel Norf, I live very close to Boston and WHAT A MESS! The Canadians that came down here to see the game went bat shit crazy after they lost. We are shocked, and embarrassed for you. Because your team lost you break into stores? tip cars? fire bomb restaurants? punch americans walking down the street? it was an embarrassment for us all. I am not saying that we are any better, but we were well and truly shocked to see such behavior from canucks! We expected a hearty "well done!" and that folks would be upset, and disappointed, but would just get on the damn bus and go home. not rip apart their hotel room, assualt the maid, and set fire to another's car. OMG! Boston is a right mess, and there were hoards of volunteers that went out yesterday to clean up broken glass, tipped cars, (which the owners will have to pay the tow bill) and salvage what could be salvaged. It was just so shocking that our neighbors did this. There is a huge movement of canadians that are stepping forward saying SHAME! good for them.
Had a HUGE fight with my mother. HUGE! I have not seen her since 2006. I was dx with MS in 2007 and have not been traveling since then. She accused me of stealing a photo from her that was IN her dresser in 2008. She said "its been stolen, and YOU have it. What am I supposed to think?!" There is a photo of my father that I took from an old shed in 1995 to send with him to his burial at sea with the NAvy. The video of his services from that time clearly show which photo I have. I couldnt get her to move off of that hot rock. You can accuse me of many thing, but theft isnt one of them. I was more wounded than I was willing to admit, and the depth and pain for the wound inflicted caused me to let go. I am hurt, in disbelief, and quite tired of being told what a peice of garbage I am. What a peice of garbage everyone else is too. She looks at the world around her and spews venom that everyone is out to take advantage of her, and everyone is is riding on her coat tails and how much of a burden we all are to her. Um...I am just stunned and saddened by it all. I dont know if I can keep up the pace anymore. im so saddened by it.
Jack the cat got his bum bum shaved. he wasnt keeping it clean, so he left me no choice. The way he waggles that thing, I almost think he likes it shaved. Dear God, my cat is a pervert.
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Post by Norfy the Walrus on Jun 17, 2011 19:28:42 GMT -5
Wait, what?! BOSTON is a mess? All of this, the riots, the robberies, the assaults. It has all been happening in VANCOUVER! I have not heard anything of Canadians going to Boston and destroying stuff. The final took place in Vancouver and that's where the riots happened. I don't recall hearing anything about Canadians in Boston hurting people down there and destroying their stuff. No, no, no. The Canucks have been destroying their OWN city, their OWN stores and shops and neighborhoods. Are you sure Boston isn't just a mess on its own? I wouldn't know, I've never been there. I'm just saying that all these riots and shit have been happening on our own turf. In Canada, not the US. West coast, not East.
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Post by dejibo on Jun 17, 2011 20:21:18 GMT -5
yes, BOSTON is a huge mess by folks down here from Calgary. I know the game was played IN calgary, but it was played on every pub TV around Boston, and was hugely celebrated. Many on holiday here in USA stopped to view the game on the tele, and went wild went Calgary lost. It was awful! I hear that Calgary itself is a huge mess itself and things went really crazy. Scary when folks go crazy over sports. There are several italian soccer teams that must close the stadium to spectators when certain teams play each other. Here in the USA we know there is going to be alot of damage after certain teams play, but we were all taken aback to the destruction in Boston. Scary!
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Post by Norfy the Walrus on Jun 17, 2011 21:35:38 GMT -5
Again, you are mistaken. Calgary has NOTHING to do with this. Where did you even get the notion that Calgary had anything to do with this? They didn't even make the playoffs this year, they didn't have hockey. The only thing that happened in Calgary lately was their annual rodeo. No riots, just a bunch of cowboys doing stupid cowboy things and kids eating cotton candy. Calgary has nothing to do with what happened in VANCOUVER. The two are nowhere near each other. They aren't even in the same province. Neither city is anywhere near Boston so why would anyone from Calgary even bother to go to Boston when THEIR team isn't even playing but they also have a rodeo going on?
Calgary never had a riot, nor did they riot another city. For Calgary, it was just another day, business as usual. Boston won the cup and celebrated. Vancouver lost the cup and went on a rampage. People from Vancouver destroyed their own city. Not Boston's, not Calgary's, but their own. Where did you even get the notion that Calgary had anything to do with this? And why are you the only person saying that Boston was destroyed by Canadians? That is totally not the case.
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Post by Yvondith on Jun 18, 2011 4:56:55 GMT -5
Sorry Dej, I'm trying not to get involved with this fight between you and Granny. I love you both, and it puts me in a bad spot. I just hope you two can smooth it out. I did tell that ornery old woman that life is too short to fight and argue, but she didn't listen. Again, I'm sorry.
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Post by dejibo on Jun 18, 2011 6:02:41 GMT -5
I owe Norf an apology The hubby kept going on and on and on about Boston and then about the Canadians tearing stuff up, and after his post last night, I decided to check out the news for myself. yes, there were some bits of damage IN boston, but you are 100% correct in that this all spilled over in Canada. I am sorry for not having my facts straight before I showed up and opened my mouth. I apologize. As for Stephanie and the fight with the old woman and I. The fight is with and between the old woman and I. If she wants to chatter to you about me, just say "look, if you have a problem with HER, take it HER! dont tell it to me." I do the same thing when she chatters on about Alma or Doug, or Charlie, or even you and Tim and your dad. She is ALWAYS talking smack about someone. I love love love that old woman, but she makes me crazy. She was making me crazy long before you were born. She does crazy things like if you mow her lawn, she will hide $10 in your stuff, you give it back, then she finds another way to hide it. You say "I wanted to cut your grass. You needed the help, I was happy to do it." then later on someone says "oh your grass looks wonderful, did Debbie cut it?" and she says "yes, put I had to pay her to do it." There are tons of little emotional tricks that she uses to pit us against each other, and keep us not talking to each other, and it makes me quite angry. I am in the middle between her boy children and her. They each want to know if she is ok, and if she needs anything, but she doesnt want to talk to either of them. When I mention that they do want to talk to her, she finds excuses not to. I am NEVER going to ask you to carry my fight Steph. I am a big girl, and have been dancing with this old woman a long time. I love you! I dont want to lose touch with you. I dont want you to be uncomfortable for one minutes time over anything that belongs to me. Just tell the old woman to stop talking about me, and start talking to me. Im tired of everyone being a peice of garbage. The whole world cannot be as bad as she wants us to believe. I know YOU are a good person and are trying, so why cant she say " steph really helped me out today." instead of telling me all the thing you couldnt do today? I am really stunned by how far out on that limb she went during this last fight. She doesnt believe she is wrong. She believes she didnt argue her point well enough, or long enough to get you to take her side. There is NO SIDE! its either true or its not true. That is the side. btw, I had frank mail her a box full of photos that are nicely framed. I included the video tape of grandpa's funeral. I dont want to tell her in advance tho. I just want her to be surprised when it shows up. I know you are not in a position that you can simply pack up and walk away, and there is no need for you to. This is OUR fight, please know that I would never ask you to fight for me. I would never ask you to go away because of something she said or did. I would never ask you to do anything but be as respectful of me, as I have been of you. Fair enough?
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Post by Norfy the Walrus on Jun 18, 2011 6:54:18 GMT -5
Thank you. I am not out to prove you wrong with anything or rub a "I was right you was wrong" in your face. I just don't want those people from Vancouver, people from my country, as retarded as they are, being accused of something they did not do. I have a cousin living in Vancouver. He's not even a hockey fan so I can just imagine how he feels about this. I think I'll give him a call later today.
Sorry to hear about your fight with the old woman. Sounds like you have your hands full there. Hope you can prove you didn't steal her stuff with that box you are sending here. Pointless, family disputes are never good. Life is too short to hold a grudge. Steph is bang on with that one.
*Thumbs up icon*
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Post by Norfy the Walrus on Jun 19, 2011 8:55:23 GMT -5
Stupid knee! Omg! I just woke up an old knee injury I got from Taekwondo I've had since I was 15. I was just walking in my bedroom and my knee decides to give out. Next thing I know I'm on the floor writhing in agony. Seriously! Wtf, dude? I go hiking in the ravine here in the city quite often. Uphill, with roots jutting out of the ground. Some paths are quite narrow and I can actually hoof it pretty good in there. But walking on a flat surface in my bed room causes my knee to buckle. What the hell!?
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Post by dejibo on Jun 19, 2011 14:20:43 GMT -5
you didnt tear your ACL did you? that ligament can cause very bad pain, and knock you to the floor. I hope you feel better.
I hear Steph is having panic attacks again. I hope she is feeling better.
Jack the cats says TREAT! gimme TREAT!
Thought of my dad most of the day. I loved that old man. We really got to know each other when I moved to Connecticut where he lived. He was a different man on his own, than he was in a family. Im so glad he and I made up before we last saw each other. its fathers day here in america and I cant help but reminice.
I have lost a total of 29 pounds! whooo! go me! I have been walking everyday, and I have been watching my food, and am really starting to see a change.
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Post by Yvondith on Jun 19, 2011 14:30:06 GMT -5
Yeah, I've been having then a lot recently. No explanation, just suddenly ZOMGWTFPANICATTACK. I gotta go spend some time with my old man today too, later on tonight. I love my old man to death, I've always been daddy's little girl.
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